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        <title>Tech Bio: Alan Turing</title>
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            <title><![CDATA[Tech Bio: Alan Turing - Kenneth S.]]></title>
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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me put it another way. If Turing's machine is complete, can it do something that shows it is incomplete?</p>
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            <dc:creator>Kenneth S.</dc:creator>
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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for making this documentary. I've always found Turing's life to be something I wasn't attracted to understanding. For instance, I had a "boyfriend" (from 1988 to 1995 when he died of AIDS) who was into Alan Turing, yet I didn't notice Turing was gay until some time after that. But the moment you mentioned Gödel my attention perked up.  I wouldn't have known anything about Gödel if it weren't for Hofstadter, who for some reason really turned me on. It is Hofstadter's writing about living vs. non-living that I find the most interesting.</p>
<p>&lt;&lt; In a word, GEB is a very personal attempt to say how it is that animate<br />
beings can come out of inanimate matter. What is a self, and how can a self<br />
come out of stuff that is as selfless as a stone or a puddle? What is an "I",<br />
and why are such things found (at least so far) only in association with, as<br />
poet Russell Edson once wonderfully phrased it, "teetering bulbs of dread<br />
and dream" - that is, only in association with certain kinds of gooey lumps<br />
encased in hard protective shells mounted atop mobile pedestals that roam<br />
the world on pairs of slightly fuzzy, jointed stilts?<br />
GEB approaches these questions by slowly building up an analogy that<br />
likens inanimate molecules to meaningless symbols, and further likens selves<br />
(or "I"s or "souls", if you prefer - whatever it is that distinguishes animate<br />
from inanimate matter) to certain special swirly, twisty, vortex-like, and<br />
meaningful patterns that arise only in particular types of systems of<br />
meaningless symbols. It is these strange, twisty patterns that the book<br />
spends so much time on, because they are little known, little appreciated,<br />
counterintuitive, and quite filled with mystery. &gt;&gt; -- Hofstadter, Preface to Gödel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid, 20th Anniversary Edition.</p>
<p>I think that many people would find that repulsive because it is even more extreme than thoughts of mortality. To know you will die is one thing. To see that you are in some ways not really alive (at least not alive in the way that you intuitively feel you are) is much more difficult to take. The first reaction is denial, which takes many forms.  But I have the opposite reaction. I want to study it again and again.</p>
<p>I'm also glad you questioned Turing's suicide. I haven't done any research, but it appears very suspicious that someone taking cyanide would go to the trouble to put in in an apple.</p>
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            <dc:creator>Kenneth S.</dc:creator>
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